Sparx Systems Enterprise Architect enhances collaboration, improves documentation, and streamlines project management, fostering better efficiency and decision-making.
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review-section_quotes_scalability_issues
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{"quote":"We typically work with models that involve up to 50 modelers and as many as 10,000 elements and 20,000 relationships without significant difficulties.","score":"9"}
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review-section_quotes_scalability_issues
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{"quote":"We have managed really big models and did not face large problems.","score":"8"}
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review-section_quotes_valuable_features
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{"quote":"Most of the time, we don't use it because it's not straightforward to explain to people.","score":"6"}
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review-section_quotes_valuable_features
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{"quote":"In practice, we've tried to use the reusable asset service with some customers, yet it wasn’t very successful.","score":"5"}
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review-section_quotes_valuable_features
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{"quote":"This ensures structure and clarity.","score":"6"}
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review-section_quotes_valuable_features
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{"quote":"We then define the structure of the repository and organize it in a reasonable way.","score":"8"}
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review-section_quotes_valuable_features
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{"quote":"At the beginning of a project, we train people and define a metamodel that will be used.","score":"7"}
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review-section_quotes_setup_cost
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{"quote":"While it might be cumbersome to learn, it still delivers excellent results for the cost involved.","score":"8"}
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review-section_quotes_setup_cost
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{"quote":"One of the reasons many public sector institutions in the Czech Republic use it is that it provides a very good price-performance ratio.","score":"9"}
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review-section_quotes_room_for_improvement
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{"quote":"This is not the most user-friendly solution.","score":"6"}
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review-section_quotes_room_for_improvement
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{"quote":"It's a powerful product with plenty of features, it's not easy for even experienced users to find their way without guidance.","score":"8"}
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review-section_quotes_room_for_improvement
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{"quote":"Whenever I begin a new project with Sparx, I have to spend time training people on how to use it since it is not straightforward.","score":"7"}
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product-pros_n_cons_overview
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<p>Sparx Systems Enterprise Architect automates document generation, enhancing efficiency by reducing errors. It offers a customizable repository supporting various modeling languages, increasing compatibility and integration. The software improves architecture maintenance and traceability, aiding project oversight. Its BPM simulation features enhance process understanding. While scalable and flexible, challenges include a steep learning curve, inadequate documentation, limited logical modeling, collaboration issues, and generic capabilities that lack specialization for specific industries.</p>
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product-review_section_summary_previous_solutions
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Many utilized Visio, Rational Rose, and ARIS before adopting Sparx Systems Enterprise Architect. Others employed tools like MAP, PowerDesigner, System Architect, ERwin, and MagicDraw. Visio users often noted a lack of comparison due to Sparx's superior features. Rational Rose users cited high costs and functionality limitations. ARIS was used in conjunction for business processing. Organizations appreciated Sparx for affordability and comprehensive modeling capabilities, prompting switches from several costlier and less effective tools.
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product-review_section_summary_setup_cost
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Sparx Systems Enterprise Architect is considered affordable with flexible licensing options such as perpetual and floating licenses. Users highlight its excellent cost-to-value ratio, with an EA Ultimate Edition seat priced under $1,000. Additional daily costs for shared MS SQL Server repositories are minimal. Initial setup is quick, often requiring around half an hour, and maintenance efforts are negligible. The tool's pricing is deemed economical compared to competitors, supporting both small and large-scale deployment.
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product-cons_generated
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<p>Sparx Systems Enterprise Architect has a steep learning curve, making it difficult for new users to understand its capabilities and functionality.</p><p>There are insufficient customization options and inadequate visual representation for modeling sets.</p><p>The software features are not intuitive and challenging for non-technical users, complicating collaboration efforts.</p><p>The documentation templates require improvements to support complex documentation needs such as RFP templates.</p><p>Report generation is not interactive or straightforward, requiring more effort from users to effectively utilize this feature.</p>
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product-alternatives_overview
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<p>Sparx Systems Enterprise Architect surpasses its competitors by offering comprehensive modeling tools, robust integration capabilities, and unparalleled flexibility that enhance collaboration and streamline complex system designs within diverse industries.</p>
Most users implemented Sparx Systems Enterprise Architect in-house, often without external assistance. They found the process straightforward and manageable, though requiring some technical expertise. Many had internal IT or experienced individuals lead the implementation. Some engaged external consultants or vendors, especially for large-scale deployments or specific configurations. Establishing governance and support practices was highlighted as beneficial for enterprise-level integrations. Some leveraged email or vendor support, while training was often handled internally.
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product-review_section_summary_initial_setup
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Many users found Sparx Systems Enterprise Architect's initial setup straightforward and easy, especially for single installations. However, setting up a repository or collaborative environments may pose challenges. Some faced difficulties with network setups and cloud server configurations, while others noted the need for technical skills. Helpful resources include tutorials and support, which aid in overcoming potential complexities for larger deployments or advanced configurations.
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product-review_section_summary_customer_service
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Sparx Systems Enterprise Architect customer service is frequently praised for quick responses, often within 24 hours. Emails are the primary method of contact, with a strong user community and resources available for additional support. Many users rely on forums, online help, and external resources instead of direct contact. Technical support is generally well-regarded, but some report limited availability or responsiveness, especially in different regions. Many users note they rarely need direct support.
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product-review_section_summary_ROI
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Users of Sparx Systems Enterprise Architect often find it difficult to quantify the ROI, yet many agree it recoups its cost through time savings and improved productivity. They report indirect benefits like quality enhancements and better decision-making. Costs are quickly recovered, even in small engineering firms, with positive ROI noted after a single project or the first year. With increased efficiency in modeling and architecture processes, Sparx Systems facilitates significant productivity gains.
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product-review_section_summary_deployment_model
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A majority of users implement Sparx Systems Enterprise Architect on-premises. A smaller group opts for public cloud deployment, while others utilize private cloud or hybrid cloud configurations. The on-premises option is preferred by organizations prioritizing local control and security. Public cloud users benefit from scalability and reduced infrastructure costs. Those choosing private cloud enjoy dedicated resources, while hybrid cloud users appreciate flexibility. Preferences reflect the diverse needs and infrastructures of organizations utilizing the platform.
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product-review_section_summary_other_advice
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Users advise others to invest time in training to fully harness Sparx Systems Enterprise Architect's capabilities, as it is complex and technical. It is overkill for simple diagramming but excels in comprehensive modeling with various databases and project management features. They recommend joining communities and using books for enhanced understanding. Additional integration with other tools and improved tutorials are desired. Evaluating needs and ensuring experienced configuration aligns the tool's function with business requirements, creating better user experiences.
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product-pros_generated
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<p>Automated document generation in Sparx Systems Enterprise Architect saves significant time by eliminating manual updating and pasting efforts.</p>
<p>Sparx Systems Enterprise Architect offers robust support for various modeling languages, enhancing its utility for database design and software lifecycle visualization.</p>
<p>Sparx Systems Enterprise Architect provides a comprehensive repository that simplifies maintaining architecture information and traceability with requirements.</p>
<p>The tool is highly customizable, allowing users to adapt it seamlessly to their corporate environments without extensive retraining.</p>
<p>Sparx Systems Enterprise Architect supports effective business process modeling and scenario simulations, improving workflow descriptions and operational planning.</p>
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product-review_section_summary_stability_issues
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Users find Sparx Systems Enterprise Architect to be very stable and mature. Many experience no issues, with only minor concerns related to database connections or specific configurations like NFS or license servers. Some note that stability varies by version, while others mention occasional synchronization errors. Despite these, the platform is widely appreciated for its reliability, though some suggest improvements in handling complex projects or certain technical aspects. Regular updates appear to address past challenges effectively.
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product-review_section_summary_use_of_solution
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Individuals have used Sparx Systems Enterprise Architect for a range from less than one year to over fifteen years.
Sparx Systems Enterprise Architect could improve in user interface intuitiveness and ease of use, with better support for collaboration, reporting, and cloud integration. There's a steep learning curve for new users. Visualization capabilities, mobile adaptability, and data modeling features are limited. The software's complexity makes it challenging for less technical users, and its documentation and support for team workflows could be enhanced. Compatibility with other tools and platforms would benefit its adoption.
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product-review_section_summary_valuable_features
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Sparx Systems Enterprise Architect's most valuable features include robust UML and BPMN diagram support, comprehensive modeling languages, and seamless collaboration through a centralized RDBMS repository. Users appreciate its document generation, traceability, and ability to support various architectural frameworks. The tool's flexibility, extensive integration capabilities, and intuitive interface cater to diverse modeling needs across business and technical domains. It offers cost-effective pricing, making it accessible for enterprise-level projects.
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product-review_section_summary_use_case
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Users primarily engage Sparx Systems Enterprise Architect for enterprise architecture, UML modeling, and generating architecture artifacts. It supports designing solution architecture, business modeling, and project documentation. Users create comprehensive models integrating various notations such as ArchiMate, BPMN, and UML. Teams utilize it for data modeling, business process modeling, and developing standardized IT architectures for organizations. Despite its wide application, users find a steep learning curve, especially for inexperienced individuals, necessitating improvements in usability and entry-level training.
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product-review_section_summary_scalability_issues
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Sparx Systems Enterprise Architect demonstrates strong scalability, handling small to moderately large teams effectively. It manages complex models well but may require robust infrastructure for extensive use. While performance is good, scaling challenges arise with larger user bases and projects. Some manage hundreds of users without problems, yet others experience slowdowns during simultaneous access. Organizations appreciate its capability to support growth, though certain setups report integration challenges. Scalability ratings vary but lean positively for general use.
Users compared Rational Doors, IBM Rational products, Archimate, Visual Paradigm, HOPEX, MagicDraw, and others against Sparx Systems Enterprise Architect. Sparx was frequently selected for its cost-effectiveness, ease of use, and UML capabilities. Price and feature balance were critical. Competitors were often more expensive, challenging, or lacking full modeling capabilities. Floating licenses, simplicity, and SQL query functionality were appreciated. Several evaluations focused on price-performance ratios, resulting in Sparx often being chosen over more costly alternatives.
Sparx Systems Enterprise Architect enhanced organizations by creating comprehensive specifications, improving communication, and fostering team collaboration. It centralized architecture models, facilitated requirements management, and optimized IT strategy visibility. It aided visualization, reusable model elements, and effective system modeling. Sparx EA made business-IT alignment simpler and provided traceability and impact analysis. Organizations used it for efficient documentation, streamlined development, and process harmonization across regions, while maintaining a standardized repository for architecture artifacts.
SailPoint Identity Security Cloud offers robust support, with effective technical assistance and valuable community resources despite some responsiveness issues.
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review-stat_quotes
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{"quote":"I would rate the vendor support around five out of ten. Sometimes, the support is slow, and they often suggest resorting to expert services.","quality_score":"6","sentiment_score":"4"}
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review-stat_quotes
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{"quote":"I would rate the scalability between 8.5 to nine out of ten. The solution scales well as long as we provide the necessary resources.","quality_score":"7","sentiment_score":"8"}
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review-stat_quotes
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{"quote":"IdentityIQ deserves a rating of 12 out of ten for stability. It's extremely reliable.","quality_score":"8","sentiment_score":"10"}
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product-review_section_short_summary_use_case
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SailPoint Identity Security Cloud manages enterprise applications, lifecycle, and compliance with on-premises and cloud models for centralized governance.
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review-section_quotes_other_advice
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{"quote":"It is not just a project but a long-term commitment or a marriage with the solution.","score":"9"}
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review-section_quotes_other_advice
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{"quote":"Depending on the use case, I recommend asking why SailPoint is needed, as it involves a significant commitment.","score":"8"}
{"quote":"IdentityIQ deserves a rating of 12 out of ten for stability.","quality_score":"9","sentiment_score":"10"}
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review-con_points
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{"quote":"I would rate the vendor support around five out of ten. Sometimes, the support is slow, and they often suggest resorting to expert services.","quality_score":"8","sentiment_score":"4"}
SailPoint Identity Security Cloud automates access governance, enhances compliance, improves onboarding, reduces costs, and strengthens security through integration.
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review-section_quotes_customer_service
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{"quote":"Sometimes, the support is slow, and they often suggest resorting to expert services.","score":"8"}
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review-section_quotes_customer_service
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{"quote":"I would rate the vendor support around five out of ten.","score":"6"}
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review-section_quotes_stability_issues
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{"quote":"It's extremely reliable.","score":"8"}
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review-section_quotes_stability_issues
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{"quote":"IdentityIQ deserves a rating of 12 out of ten for stability.","score":"9"}
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review-section_quotes_scalability_issues
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{"quote":"I would rate the scalability between 8.5 to nine out of ten.","score":"8"}
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review-section_quotes_scalability_issues
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{"quote":"The solution scales well as long as we provide the necessary resources.","score":"9"}
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review-section_quotes_setup_cost
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{"quote":"The pricing of SailPoint could be better.","score":"8"}
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review-section_quotes_room_for_improvement
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{"quote":"IdentityIQ should be more widely available on the cloud, especially in regions like the Middle East where residency issues are present.","score":"8"}
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review-section_quotes_room_for_improvement
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{"quote":"The pricing could be improved.","score":"7"}
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{"quote":"It brings efficiency in onboarding identities, restoring and extending accesses, and terminating accesses.","score":"9"}
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{"quote":"The automation of provisioning and deprovisioning, managing contractors, temporary users, and the overall automation factor is fantastic.","score":"10"}
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review-section_quotes_valuable_features
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{"quote":"The most valuable feature is the automation.","score":"8"}
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product-pros_n_cons_overview
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<p>SailPoint Identity Security Cloud provides robust security and administration for access management across environments. It integrates smoothly, boosting connectivity while compliance features enhance security. The identity data warehouse adapts to user needs with regular updates ensuring efficiency. However, provisioning, reporting, and support need improvement, with AI features in demand. Integration challenges call for low-code solutions, and pricing is high, potentially limiting accessibility for some organizations.</p>
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product-review_section_summary_previous_solutions
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Before adopting SailPoint Identity Security Cloud, users utilized a variety of identity management tools such as MS FIM 2010, OIM 11gR2, Oracle Waveset, Aveksa, Oracle Identity Analytics, and BMC IDM/Control-SA. They also had experience with in-house developed systems, IBM products like ISIM, Microsoft, NetIQ, Saviynt, Okta Workforce Identity, and Broadcom. Many faced challenges with support, flexibility, pricing, and integration leading to their transition to SailPoint.
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product-alternatives_overview
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SailPoint Identity Security Cloud surpasses its competitors by offering advanced AI-driven identity management, seamless integration with various applications, and real-time access monitoring, ensuring unparalleled security and efficiency for enterprises seeking robust identity governance solutions.
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product-review_section_summary_setup_cost
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Pricing for SailPoint Identity Security Cloud is considered high compared to competitors, with costs escalating based on the number of identities managed. The solution typically involves additional licensing fees for integration add-ons and modules. Many organizations find value justification in its extensive capabilities, but it's often seen as unaffordable for small to medium businesses. Subscription options include yearly and multi-year plans, and discounts are available for long-term commitments. Pricing transparency and scalability remain areas for improvement.
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product-cons_generated
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<p>Advanced provisioning features require more improvement and automation for access certification without manager intervention.</p><p>Reporting and analytic capabilities are limited and complex, lacking user-friendly report functionality.</p><p>Technical support and pricing need improvement, with high costs being prohibitive for mid-tier companies.</p><p>Technical skills required are high, necessitating easier processes and a transition to a no-code or low-code setup.</p><p>Lacks integrated solutions for access management, privileged access, and third-party access governance.</p>
Internal teams often handle SailPoint Identity Security Cloud deployment, with support from vendors or consultants boasting strong IDM expertise. Projects feature roles like architects, engineers, and developers. The use of third-party integrators aids in complex scenarios. Collaborations with firms such as Edgile are praised for their understanding and best practices, ensuring efficient implementation and ongoing management. Deployment timelines vary, but leveraging external expertise facilitates smoother execution and maintenance, enhancing team's ability to independently manage the setup.
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product-review_section_summary_initial_setup
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SailPoint Identity Security Cloud's initial setup is generally straightforward with comprehensive documentation. Many find it easy and quick, taking a few days depending on the organization's specific needs and infrastructure. However, some users experience complexity due to identity management intricacies requiring expertise in IT systems and software development. Training and experience significantly impact ease of installation, and larger deployments can extend the process to weeks or months. Integration challenges, especially with legacy systems, are common but manageable.
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product-review_section_summary_customer_service
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SailPoint Identity Security Cloud's customer service offers multiple points of contact, includes weekend support, and has a strong account management team. Technical support is effective, though escalation may be necessary for quick resolutions. Users appreciate the knowledgeable staff and community resources. However, there are mixed experiences with response times, especially in specific regions or languages. Some users rely on engagement and peer services, while others find the expert services team valuable for complex issues.
In terms of customer service and support, SailPoint Identity Security Cloud is consistently rated at around 3 out of 5, based on a predominance of neutral impressions.
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product-review_section_summary_other_advice
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Users advise others to thoroughly understand their business requirements and engage experienced consultants for implementation. They suggest attending SailPoint training, simplifying configurations, and using out-of-the-box features. Hardware requirements should be met for optimal performance. Emphasizing phased deployment and automating processes is crucial. Engaging with others who have successfully implemented it helps. Prior documentation of specifications and aligning use cases is essential. IdentityIQ is praised for flexibility but managing complexity and keeping customizations minimal is important.
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product-review_section_summary_ROI
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Organizations experienced streamlined access control, improved identity management, and reduced risks with SailPoint Identity Security Cloud. Implementation speed and modern design were highlighted, with automated processes reducing manual efforts. Users saved costs through self-service functions and efficient group management, achieving ROI by managing risks and reducing operational costs by about fifteen percent. While some have not yet calculated ROI, others reported achieving it within 14 to 18 months, benefiting from compliance and governance improvements.
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product-pros_generated
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<p>SailPoint Identity Security Cloud provides enhanced security and simplified administration capabilities for managing access, whether for new or existing users.</p>
<p>It offers robust features for user provisioning, role management, and access certification, streamlining these essential security operations.</p>
<p>Customization options for data imports and role modeling facilitate faster integration and easier support, reusing organizational role structures effectively.</p>
<p>With its active community and comprehensive resources, users can easily find help and information to address issues and optimize their use of the platform.</p>
<p>SailPoint Identity Security Cloud integrates well with various systems, enhancing its functionality and application across different environments.</p>
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product-review_section_summary_cloud_provider
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Most users select Microsoft Azure as the preferred platform for SailPoint Identity Security Cloud, while a smaller number of users choose other unspecified providers.
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product-review_section_summary_deployment_model
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Most users are opting for On-premises deployment for SailPoint Identity Security Cloud. A smaller number are choosing Public Cloud, while Hybrid Cloud has limited selection. The preference suggests many prioritize in-house management, although some employ diverse environments with cloud incorporation.
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product-review_section_summary_stability_issues
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SailPoint Identity Security Cloud is consistently reported as stable and reliable. Users frequently highlight its strength in handling high workloads without crashes or glitches. Some note minor issues with connectors like Lotus Notes and ServiceNow, causing batch processing delays. Others mention software bugs during updates but praise its built-in redundancy. Many endorse its stability, rating it highly, with few encountering major disruptions. Several applications experience integration challenges, yet the platform remains robust.
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product-review_section_summary_use_of_solution
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Usage of SailPoint Identity Security Cloud ranges from a few months to over fifteen years.
SailPoint Identity Security Cloud's pricing is considered expensive by many. Its user interface is complex, requiring significant technical skills for setup and customization. The reporting and analytics capabilities lack flexibility and depth compared to dedicated tools. The need for more automation in provisioning and improved technical support response times is emphasized. Customization is challenging and lacks sufficient out-of-the-box features, connectors, and integrations, leading to higher implementation costs and complexity.
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product-review_section_summary_valuable_features
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SailPoint Identity Security Cloud offers a user-friendly interface and versatile features such as hierarchical RBAC, lifecycle management, and role mining. Its out-of-the-box connectors enable quick deployment across different environments. The platform excels in governance, compliance, and automation, facilitating efficient onboarding, user provisioning, and access certifications. Organizations appreciate its customizable workflows, robust integration capabilities with various applications, and comprehensive reporting functions, ensuring streamlined identity management processes and enhanced security.
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product-review_section_summary_use_case
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Organizations primarily use SailPoint Identity Security Cloud for identity lifecycle management, provisioning, deprovisioning, compliance controls, and access governance. It automates onboarding and offboarding processes, ensuring users have the necessary access based on roles and job functions. It supports various deployments, provides centralized access management, and integrates with enterprise resources like Active Directory and Oracle. Clients utilize its capabilities for certifications, access requests, password resets, and role lifecycle management, enhancing security and compliance.
Organizations benefit from SailPoint Identity Security Cloud through streamlined access control, reducing risks by automating provisioning and de-provisioning, enhancing compliance and audit trails, consolidating user access views, improving onboarding efficiency, and integrating seamlessly with existing systems. Managers conduct more effective user access evaluations, reducing manual tasks and subsequent error rates. Operational costs decrease, security improves, and compliance gaps close. Access governance becomes efficient, aiding credential cleanup and supporting role-based access controls throughout various workforce categories.
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product-review_section_summary_scalability_issues
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SailPoint Identity Security Cloud is highly scalable, praised for its ability to support large user bases with efficient horizontal and vertical scaling. Some concerns about Java memory demands and challenges on virtualized platforms are noted, requiring adequate resource allocation. Documentation aids in optimizing deployments for different needs. Designed for enterprise-scale identity governance, it performs well with both medium and large businesses, handling a significant number of identities seamlessly with available scaling options.
Users evaluated options like Aveksa, Oracle Identity Manager, RSA, NetIQ, One Identity, Saviynt, Okta, and ForgeRock against SailPoint Identity Security Cloud. SailPoint IdentityIQ was often chosen due to better functionality in performance, time to market, and user access scenarios. It was compared with both cloud-based and mixed-model solutions, proving more efficient and stable, with good support. It effectively handled identity governance, differing from access management-focused options like Okta and Cisco.